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The Battle of Curly, Larry and Moe

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Gary Haubold sent me a story from the Toronto Star titled "The Battle of Curly, Larry and Moe." Since it did not have a link, I goggle searched for it and found it here. The same search also lead me to this London Telegraph story on the same battle, which also included a map of the battle area.

Contrary to early reports of the "Thunder Run" being something of a cake walk, it was a very near run thing. The supply company for one of the two armored battalions involved was pinned down by Iraqi fire and nearly over run more than once. From the Toronto Star article:

In the centre of it all, light-armoured Supply Company 3-15, tasked with keeping open the refuelling and re-arming route between the three companies holding down Curly, Larry and Moe. Many of them not trained for front-line combat - fuel-tank drivers, medics, ammo specialists, technicians, even a chaplain who, fortuitously, had been an infantryman during Desert Storm in 1991. Chaplains aren't even issued firearms but this one, Steve Hommel, had the foresight to order his assistant to carry two M-16 rifles, just in case. And this was that case.

"He did what he felt he had to do," Maj. Denton Knapp was saying yesterday, as his platoon rested on ornate settees inside the Baath party museum in a now-secured sector command post codenamed China. "He did what was necessary to protect himself and his soldiers."

The chaplain helped kill the enemy - upwards of 300 dead paramilitaries in all, taken out by this unit, their corpses strewn about the macadam, the locations of the most intense fighting still marked yesterday by char-blackened Bradleys, the mangled remnants of fuel tankers, blown-up buses and cars.

And...
And Capt. J.O. Bailey, logistics officer for the battalion, taking nine or 10 soft vehicles up the road and to the rescue when the platoon was pinned down at Curly, victims of a perfect ambush that had attacked both the lead scout Humvee and the maintenance truck bringing up the rear, boxing in the convoy. But then Bailey's cavalry charge got ambushed, too.

"We got to just south of Curly when about 150 fighters came running out at us from one side, some 60 from the other. We took two RPGs, one missed but the second one hit the third and fourth vehicles. There were mortar rounds coming at us, too, but they dropped about 20 feet off the road.

And...
Then the fighters turned their sights on Cannan's unit. "I guess they came to us because we looked more vulnerable. And they just kept coming. We're taking hits everywhere. Guys getting shot in the arms, the legs, every part of the body that isn't protected. We must have spent two hours defending ourselves at 360 degrees, with fire coming from all around. They were on the buildings, on top of the overpass, entrenched around the intersection."

Cannan's men - all 40 of them - fought back with everything they had, from a machine-gun to hand grenades. Finally, reinforcements arrived in the form of another platoon from the south, Capt. Ronnie Johnson in charge. "That made us able to clear a trench-line to medevac our casualties, and evacuate their casualties, too."

CONTINUED...

The following is from the London Times and concentrates on the three line Abrams tank and Bradley infantry fighting vehicle companies:

Lt Col Twitty had positioned himself at Objective Larry as the best place from which to control the battle. Instead, the commander known to his men as "the black John Wayne", had to co-ordinate three separate firefights while also taking his turn at the hatch of a Bradley infantry-fighting vehicle, blazing away at swarms of attackers with his 25mm cannon.

"They were coming at us like bees," said Lt Col Twitty, from South Carolina. "We would kill one lot and then more would appear. It was the most amazing thing."

At 11am, four hours into the fight, Lt Bowers warned that smoke from burning vehicles was making it impossible to see the attackers. "We can't identify anything until it's 300-400 metres away," he said over the radio. "By then they are right on top of us."

And

The troops at Objective Moe met equally fierce resistance. "We had four tanks, 10 Bradleys and seven personnel carriers," said First Sgt Jeff Moser, 35, from Detroit. "Just about every vehicle took three or four RPG hits. They were everywhere. They were even firing from the mosque.

"We fought all day and night and took out about 300 [enemy soldiers]. They would come on foot in waves, three at a time. It was almost comical. These guys would be trying to dodge 25mm high-explosive rounds from the Bradleys, which take out everything in a five-metre radius."

There was also a connection to the battles in Mogadishu:

Sgt Major "Blackhawk Bob" Gallagher, a former special forces solder and veteran of the infamous "Black Hawk Down" mission in Somalia, quickly lived up to his other nickname, the "Metal Magnet". An RPG exploded nearby, causing a shrapnel wound to his ankle, to add to the collection begun in Mogadishu - bullet wounds in both arms and shrapnel in his back. Sgt Major Gallagher, 40, remained standing and carried on firing, ignoring the medics bandaging his legs.
Let's put this in perspective. An American service company was ambushed not once, but several times in on a road in close urban combat. It was pinned down in penny packets that were not mutually supported. They were operating under rules of engagement that required warning shots before engagement and the smoke from burning vehicles cut line of sight to 300-400 meters. When the smoke cleared, there were 300 dead Iraqi paramilitaries in front of the support company made up of mechanics, clerk-typists, staff officers & NCOs for two dead Americans.

Compare that to the performance of conscript Russian armored forces in the first battle for Grozney in Chechnya where a Russian Motorized Rifle Regiment was wiped out with 95% of its 150 armored vehicles destroyed.

Or to the results of "Blackhawk Down" in Mogadishu where 18 American Special Forces died at the hands of the Somali Aideed clan.

The difference was the heavy crew served weapons, particularly the .50 caliber machine guns, on the trucks and M113 tracked vehicles, on-call artillery and the extra ammunition vehicles could carry compared to what the Rangers and Special Forces could carry on their backs. While the Special Forces were much better trained in close combat than the 3-15th's Support Company, they just did not have enough sustained crew served weapon firepower and mobility to break contact like the the 3-15th did.

Firepower kills. If our Special Forces in Mogadishu had the AC-130 gunship support the local commander had asked for and was denied by then Secretary of Defense Les Aspin, many of those 18 dead Special Forces operators would be alive today.

One last note, The US Army's Stryker LAV's would not have survived in this fire fight that the lead mechanized company in 3rd Battalion 15th Infantry did. Bradley's and Abrams are much more heavily armored and their tracks and those of the M113 personel carriers are impervious to small arms fire that would tear apart a Stryker's "run flat" tires.

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Tracked: April 13, 2003 11:09 PM
The Battle of Larry, Curly and Moe from Signifying Nothing (Chris Lawrence's weblog)
Excerpt: Trent Telenko of Winds of Change.NET has an interesting post on the battles on the 3rd Infantry Division’s “Thunder Run”...

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