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July 23, 2004Governor Kean And Others Speakby Gary Farber of Amygdala at July 23, 2004 2:41 AM
Transcript here of the press conference of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, better known as "the 9/11 Commission." Will you listen, or will you be partisan? GOVERNOR KEAN: As we said at the outset, we look back so that we can look forward. Our goal is to prevent future attacks. Every expert with whom we spoke told us an attack of even greater magnitude is now possible and even probable. We do not have the luxury of time. We must prepare and we must act. [...]This is the gravest issue facing how the United States relates to the world today. It is not a partisan issue. It is an issue of life and death. So I want to say to those who wish to use this issue for partisan causes: shut the eff up. Just shut the eff up. You are hurting our country when you are partisan about this. This is not an issue to score points over. This is not an issue to win elections over. This is an issue to protect the lives of your fellow citizens, others in the world, and your country. Act like it. Grow up. Get some perspective. Don't be a fool. Don't act against your country for the sake of your party. When you feel the urge to make partisan points about the reforms that need to be made, stifle it. Shut up. Think. Find a way to express yourself so that you can reach agreement with your fellow citizens of the other party. Find a way to come together. Find a way to help, not to hinder. Find a way. The life you save may be your own. Imagine that it's WWII, if it helps, and think about whether or not your goal should be to score points on Those A--holes In The Other Party, or to fight back against those people who seek to kill us. Which is more important? Which must be most important in your heart, your eyes, and your head? And if Those A--holes In The Other Party are provoking you? Turn the other cheek, so that your eye is on the real enemy. Be an American, not a partisan. (Obviously, if you are a citizen of another fine country, do not try this at home.) What must be done? For that portion of the press conference, see here. Read The Rest Scale 5 out of 5. Gary Farber's home blog is Amygdala. Tracked: July 23, 2004 2:54 PM
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Thanks, Gary. Seconded.
#3 from praktike at 3:37 am on Jul 23, 2004
OK, great post. Here's hoping. Congress, in its wisdom, took due note, and promptly took up the most urgent task of our day, the true crisis facing our nation, the deeper threat: passing a law to prevent courts from ruling on gay marriage. That's what the day was spent on. Next: adjournment to campaign! One could argue quite successfully that the unbalanced activism of courts in the American system is the deeper threat here, if you're an American legislator (and hence, charged with guardianship over the American system of government). I'm with you on the Darfur thing, and I'm not opposed to gay marriage, but you've picked a bad example.
#6 from USMC at 6:38 pm on Jul 23, 2004
Gary: I hope the American public wises up come election time for senators and congressmen. BTW: The bill that passed the House stops Federal Courts from intervening in State business concerning marriage laws. Effectively leaving it to the individual states to determine the meaning of marriage and whether that states meaning should be recognized by all states. The bill still needs to be sent to the Senate for further action. Question is what will the House and Senate be looking at when they return for business in six weeks. I would hope it would be the most prominent issues we face today. I'd like to see people campaign to call for Congress to return ASAP for a special session to deal with, and pass, the Commission recommendations. It could certainly be done if Congress desired to. If they felt there were a genuine emergency, they certainly would. But, instead, they feel that it's back to business-as-usual, let's-take-a-six-week-summer-holiday (do you get six weeks vacation?), and incidentally, let's campaign for re-election! Priorities: a) take urgent measures to get mechanisms in place to protect us ASAP or b) go home and holiday and campaign. They're going with b. The public should let Congress know what it thinks of their priorities, in every legitimate way.
#8 from Jon H at 8:37 pm on Jul 23, 2004
"And if Those A--holes In The Other Party are provoking you? Turn the other cheek, so that your eye is on the real enemy." And what if the A--holes in the Other Party are doing things like pissing away the nation's urgently needed military resources in misguided, poorly-planned wars against nations only tangentially involved in the actual threat? Unity is nice and all, but not if that means unquestioningly following policy that actually damages our national interest and makes us less safe. If everyone in one party goes along with bad policy, it might look like 'politics' if you oppose that policy, but, it really isn't. There's plenty to disagree about. How about we agree on passing the Commission's recommendations ASAP, if we can't find better proposals immediately? It's theoretically possible, you know, to disagree about policies A, B, and C, but set them aside for a moment to pass mutually agreed upon policies Z, X, and Y, and then we can go back to arguing about A, B, and C. (Or do them both simultaneously.) It's been known to happen when people in both parties put, momentarily, country ahead of party.
#10 from Alan H at 2:48 am on Jul 24, 2004
It looks like nobody in Washington wants to stand in the way of this. Senators Collins & Lieberman are going to begin Govt. Affairs Committe hearings in August. Rep. Speaker Hastert initially refused Rep. Pelosi's request to come back in August to hold hearings but soon changed his mind. So now both chambers are skipping next month's recess to deal with the 9/11 Commission recommendations. I hope to at least read the executive summary of the report this weekend. Anyone had a chance to study the recommendations in detail? See here for an update on Congress. "Anyone had a chance to study the recommendations in detail?" Yes. I've now read the whole report. I excerpted Chapter 12's recommendations here, though with more or less no comment by me; I don't know that I'll further comment much, as while I think my opinion is worth more than many, I don't fool myself that there aren't many others whose opinion is worth far more than mine. Overall, I think the Commission makes sense, though one might nitpick here and there. Here is what the Report says about how Congress must change; I've not written anything about the other recommendations in Chapter 13, or elsewhere. I recommend that everyone take the time to read the entire report, chapter by chapter. It's actually extremely well written: crisp, clear, and gripping, though highly upsetting in spots, particularly Chapter 1, and its recreations of the tragic flights.
#12 from beowulf at 5:45 am on Jul 24, 2004
What a stupid posting. How can anyone not be partisan? The very act of coming to consensus will require some level of partisanship. Moreover, if you think you know how to fix this miserable situation, by all means, speak the eff up! That's what democracy is all about. Remaining silent if you think someone is implementing the wrong policy is downright criminal. The course that this country takes will be decided by partisan politics. Our constitution does not allow for national unity government (unlike parliamentary democracies). On a final note: shutting up is not what America is about. Shutting up is what people like the Taliban want. Cheers! "What a stupid posting. How can anyone not be partisan?" People can, as I said, find common ground to work together for the could of the country. This didn't used to be mysterious. You might want to look into how Arthur Vandenberg and other Republicans came together with Truman and other Democrats to form the UN, pass the National Security Act of 1947 in bipartisan fashion, as well as the Marshall Plan, and the formation of NATO, with the attitude of "partisanship stops at the water's edge." Here's one potted history. "Moreover, if you think you know how to fix this miserable situation, by all means, speak the eff up!" Was I unclear in my "what must be done" posts? Was this post unclear when I said "What must be done? For that portion of the press conference, see here"? Was I unclear in the comment just above yours?
#14 from ollienorthman at 12:32 am on Jul 26, 2004
My comment was directed at the original post in blog. People telling other people to shut the eff up and get with the program rubs me the wrong way. I find that sort behavior tends to undermine the ability of parties to come to any sort of compromise. However, as good a job as 9/11 committee did with their report (and I have a lot to read, still), I don't people should take their suggestions as gospel. For instance, we may really need what the popular press has termed a "national security tzar", but there were good reasons why we never implemented out security services under a single umbrella. I'd be worried if any of their proposals were followed without some sort of national debate. Frankly, I would feel safer if it took a while to work through these questions. --Beo "My comment was directed at the original post in blog." What comment are you referring to, "ollienorthman"? You've made no comment here before.
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