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October 22, 2004Hatewatch Briefing 2004-10-22by Lewy14 at October 22, 2004 7:55 AM
Welcome! This briefing will be looking hard at the dark places most mainstream media seem determined to look away from, to better understand our declared enemies on their own terms and without illusions. Our goal is to bring you some of the top jihadi rants, idiotarian seething, and old-school Jew-hatred from around the world, leaving you more informed, more aware, and pretty disgusted every month. This Winds of Change.NET HateWatch briefing is brought to you by Lewy14. (Email me at my handle "hatewatch" here at windsofchange.net). Entil'zha veni! HIGHLIGHTED TOPICS
Finally, in fairness, I’d have to say my impression of the media is improving as it relates to coverage of these topics. If this keeps up I will have to change my prologue – but it stays as is for now. Tracked: October 22, 2004 2:36 PM
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Excerpt: The monthly "Hatewatch" brief at Winds of Change is up.
Tracked: October 22, 2004 2:40 PM
Hatewatch from TigerHawk
Excerpt: The monthly "Hatewatch" brief at Winds of Change is up.
Comments
#1 from T. J. Madison at 8:54 am on Oct 22, 2004
>>So it’s a war on bad philosophy after all. According to Curtis, fear of terror is irrational. Dirty bomb? No big deal, probably won’t even kill anybody. And why are we fearful? Incredible as it might sound, setting off dirty bombs might actually improve the health of those in the area of effect. If this isn't the weirdest thing you've seen this week, you probably have a very interesting existence. Last year I wrote about Bush hate, Jew hate, Success hate. http://tomgrey.motime.com/1069182789#173964 The fact that the PC press has let their own Bush-hate censor any close examination of Kerry questions has hurt democracy. Demonization of the US President, by Americans, gives license to spew all the destructive envy anybody in the world has against America, America's culture, America's leader. Just like angry teenagers unhappy at responsible parents not giving them the keys to the family car.
#4 from praktike at 3:58 pm on Oct 22, 2004
Okay, there's a lot of hatred in the Arab world, no doubt. But shouldn't we police our own? prkatike - Key difference: random assholes spouting off on the Internet, and government-sponsored clerics and essayists writing in government-censored media... Make sense? A.L.
#6 from praktike at 4:56 pm on Oct 22, 2004
Sure, there's a difference, but I don't see Colt making such a bright line in his post. Re: Dirty Bombs and Health. The so-called "J-curve" theory, where a dose of approx 200 mGy/year is no worse than a doze of 0, and a dose of 100 mGy/year is actually good for you, has been known about for a while - over a decade.If this isn't the weirdest thing you've seen this week, you probably have a very interesting existence.Well, there's this. And this. And even this.
#8 from lewy14 at 6:23 pm on Oct 22, 2004
praktike, and everyone - A.L. has it right. And if anyone finds hateful comments against Muslims by anyone with comparable prominence, in this country or others, I'll run them in a heartbeat. With regard to comments policing, I really liked this statement from Jihadwatch director Robert Spencer. As to the US political partisan hatred - which I fully acknowledge exists and is poisonous - my contention is that this is the subject of sufficient coverage and other forums and media outlets. It threatens to overrun every forum touched by it.
#9 from T. J. Madison at 8:34 pm on Oct 22, 2004
[OT Response to AEB]: OK, that stuff is pretty weird. I think I'll give my fiancee AIDS for Christmas. lewy14: I'm not sure if this counts: The other occurrence Yonatan cited, that pushed him to become a refuser, came out of a disturbing exchange he had with the commander of the Israeli Air Force, General Dan Halutz, concerning his refusal to serve on missions in the Occupied Territories. In Yonatan's words: "In the discussion of my dismissal, I asked General Halutz if he would allow the firing of missiles from an Apache helicopter on a car carrying wanted men, if it were travelling in the streets of Tel Aviv, in the knowledge that that action would hurt innocent civilians who happened to be passing at the time. In answer, the general gave me his list of relative values of people, as he sees it, from the Jewish person who is superior down to the blood of an Arab which is inferior. As simple as that."
#10 from lewy14 at 10:20 pm on Oct 22, 2004
T.J., I've not looked at your linked story yet, but from the context I'd say this: it is hearsay from someone looking to justify their own actions. General Halutz is not speaking for himself here. Further, consider the instance of a more extensive diatribe once attributed to Ariel Sharon, which was later found to be not the case. I don't have the links on me but if you google "the soft and the delicate" along with Sharon's name you'll find some interesting stuff. That said, is it inconceivable that something of the sort was said? No, of course not. Racism is not an American or a Jewish failing but a human one. I don't doubt there are people who feel this way in Israel or America. The question is how society deals with it. The out and out racist voices in the US and in Israel are marginalized.
What didn't I do I should have done? The Syrian PC game is standard stuff for the Middle East.
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